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I am a Destonian- Why am I a Destonian and firstly, What does that mean? It means that I walk with and as a group called Desteni. What is Desteni? Desteni is human beings coming together to work toward real change in this world by changing ourselves- because we’ve realized that this world is but a reflection of who we are as individuals, collectively.
Thus it’s by each one of us changing our accepted natures- no longer accepting and allowing a nature that is abusive – that we change the world and no longer create a world of abuse and thus we are standing up and correcting ourselves and our nature to that which considers what is best for all, in all ways- so that through this process of self change- the world change, one and equal, to longer be full of abuse, but will actually become a ‘heaven on earth’, so to speak, where all can live a life free of abuse- as it should be- as each would like for themselves.
Thus Desteni is humanity’s stand to self correct our accepted nature which has allways been one of accepting and allowing abuse- to no longer accept and allow abuse within ourselves, to no longer manifest abuse in this world- and this is why I stand and walk with and as Desteni- where as a group we stand together, walk together, and support each other as each walk our individual process of changing ourselves, changing our nature- to that which will manifest and create a world in which all life is free to thrive and live to the fullest- a world in which none suffer- because that is the kind of world I would like to live in- if you agree, join us.
Join us at Desteni, and become part of the new Destiny of Man- as we rebirth ourselves into beings that can stand the test of time and can live in all ways as what’s best for all, and end suffering and abuse once and for all. Join us at Desteni and become part of the Solution.
So I’ve recently entered into an agreement- and if you’re not familiar with what is an agreement, I have placed some links below, which can provide some perspective on what is an agreement. Basically, in a nutshell, an agreement is- where 2 beings come together as who they are here, as physical beings within this physical existence, to assist and support each other to expand themselves, as different from the design of a ‘typical relationship’ where 2 beings coming together only to support pre-designed pre-programmed mind-based personalities as an act they will live as with each other and will support each other in remaining limited to these pre-programmed personality designs, which, if you have experienced much of this, you will no is really not cool, and not a cool way to walk a partnership with another human being in this life.
So what is really cool about this agreement is that I entered this agreement, having actually considered whether this was a being who I could actually ‘get along with’ and stand with for life. It’s not something I just ‘jumped into’ without first taking the time to see who and what this being live as, so that I walk in awareness of ‘what I’m getting myself into’. Which is how I’d ended up in so many past relationships- and what happens then is that you do not effectively ‘know’ the person and in time, find out ‘the hard way’ that you were not actually ‘well-suited’ for one another. But by taking the time and ‘getting to know’ each other first, and testing our communication to see- do we communicate with ease, to see does the communication flow ‘naturally’, so to speak, you can establish whether or not the agreement will be an effective one, or whether there will be great difficulty and unnecessary conflict.
These were/are really cool points to consider, which in past I had not. I hadn’t realized the basic common sense of getting to actually know someone before you form and agreement with them- and within this then also considering- how well do you get along? This was a point I often ignored, due to the simple desire to be with someone/be in a relationship- where, I would deliberately ignore any signs that we might actually not be a good match- I would justify it within my mind and go into the relationship anyway, knowing on at least some level, that it was already doomed to fail. And then I would ‘lock myself in’ to these relationships within an idea that I must ‘make it work’ and that, theoretically, one should be able to ‘get along’ with anyone.
Theoretically, yes, but it is not here yet. Considering how we currently exist as organic robots possessed by resonant personality designs (which if you’re not familiar with what that means, check the links below for perspectives on that), we currently are not going to all just ‘get along’, easily and smoothly- and thus, it’s a point to consider, while we walk this process wherein we’ll eventually likely get to a point where it doesn’t matter, and anyone could get along easily and smoothly with anyone. But it’s simply not here yet, and thus for the time being, it makes sense to consider this point of ease of communication- as it will make both beings’ process much easier and much more fun, and both will thus be better able to expand themselves, and support each other to expand, within their agreement. And by being within as effective agreement as possible, one is also doing what is best for all, one and equal, within placing oneself in a position where one can expand oneself the most and thus they contribute more effectively to the whole, as one of the ‘smaller parts’ that make up the whole.
So what I realized is that it’s not to live it as a rule that you have to be able to have an agreement with anyone no matter what- but that it’s quite practical to consider the resonances such that you can make a decision that will flow and where it will be ‘easy’ so to speak to expand in your processes together, because there will not be a lot of unnecessary conflict created from resonances that are pre-programmed to not get along- so it’s not to live in spite of who/how/what we are manifested as currently- but to take that into consideration and see- what will be the most effective, for all, where what is most effective for two people in an agreement is what’s most effective for the whole, one and equal- like, if all parts of a body are functionally optimally, then that body will function optimally as well. Common sense.
So within realizing this I realized another fascinating point/perspective- which is that in considering what’s best for all here, and standing up to change what’s here- that it is not sufficient or effective to stand up only ‘within’ what’s here, but that it’s also necessary to stand ‘as’ what’s here- it’s exactly like you can’t have Oneness without the Equality- meaning, one without the other, is not enough to have ‘heaven on earth’- both points must be considered- that we are ‘one’, and that we are ‘equal’. One without the other manifests abuse. Thus, it’s from that same perspective that one can look to change what is here as how we’re currently manifested, we must stand up from ‘within’ and ‘as’ what is currently here as ourselves manifested- so, if you only stand up from ‘within’ existence as it currently exist- but do not also consider that we must stand ‘as’ existence as it currently exist as well, you will not be able to actually change this world- both points are required.
So, just a fascinating realization I had within this point of looking at the point of ‘considering what’s here’, specifically from the perspective of deciding to go into an agreement with someone- to not only approach it from a point of attempting to stand up from within the systems we currently exist as, but to consider also the point of ‘standing ‘as’ those systems’- ‘standing as’ meaning to stand ‘equal to’ and within that, meaning to first ‘accept’ what is here as oneself, and not trying to live ‘in spite of it’- as this creates unnecessary conflict- and that is what we must learn to stop doing-
Time to realize that there actually is no ‘freewill’ here in a time and space physical reality- that the only way to change reality is to change it as ourselves, by standing equal to it, and then standing from within what we have realized and accepted is who and what we’ve become. Within this, there is no ‘freewill’ or ‘freechoice’- one must look at oneself in self honesty and see- who and what am I actually living as? Thus it’s not a choosing, but simply a looking and seeing what is already here, as you, as who you are and what you live, everyday, every moment, every breath that you are here and a part of this existence.
It seems to be our biggest lesson here- is to actually consider the physical reality- to actually consider what we’ve manifested, within the realization that it is who and what we become, one and equal, and have to live with and within every moment we are here. It is this simple point of not considering what is already manifested that keeps us fucked- in apparently never-ending cycles of suffering and abuse- because we never take the time to actually deal with the problems that we’ve already created, and that are here and have been here all along, piling up like that pile of dirty laundry in that one corner of your room- that just gets bigger and bigger-
Except, when you look at whats going on in the world actually, it’s a lot worse than a pile of dirty laundry. It’s suffering the likes of which can never be undone, or ‘taken back’ or ‘compensated’ for. And that is the key with the physical reality that we must get- consequence. There is consequence to everything we do and live- and whatever we’re living as, we are actively creating it into this world, piling consequence on top of consequence, while ignoring the accumulation effect, wherein the mess we’re in just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
This is what we at Desteni are standing up for- to stand up and stop just continuing to let shit pile up and not taking care of it and manifesting more and more work and suffering for ourselves in the future. Because it is not going to get any easier. So we are standing up, within and as what’s here, to actually sort out this mess, once and for all, so that once the shit’s finally taken care of, we can actually get down to some real FUN- that we can fully really enjoy ourselves within the realization that all are able to enjoy themselves here and none needlessly suffer.
If this is what you’d like to stand for as well- join us-
Desteni.co.za – Join in the Discussions on the Forum and see Hundreds of articles and videos providing perspective on Reality and the message of Oneness and Equality
Equalmoney.org – a New Economic system based on the Principle of Equality- that we are All Equal in the Right to have a Dignified Life
Desteniiprocess.com – The Desteni I Process- A Life Coaching course to prepare those who’ll lead the world to a new system that stand for all, and provide an income at the same time
Perspectives on Relationships & Agreements:
Relationship & Agreements 1 – Alice Bailey
Relationships & Agreements 2 – Alice Bailey
Relationships & Agreements 3 – Alice Bailey
Relationships and Agreements 4 – Alice Bailey
Agreement Support 1 – Introduction
Agreement Support 2 – Physical Comfortability
Agreement Support 3.1 – From Interpretation to Communication (LJ’s Perspective)
Agreement Support 3.2 – From Communication to Interpretation – Maite’s Perspective
Agreement Support 3.3 – From Communication to Interpretation – Maite’s Perspective
Agreements — Facing the Reality of Self
In recent interview Stephen Hawking claims that there is no heaven, it’s a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.” See interview here.
In the interview, Stephen Hawking comments that, “One can’t prove that god doesn’t exist- but science makes god unnecessary. The laws of physics can explain the universe without a need for a creator.”
I’d clarify this by saying that- one cannot prove to another that god doesn’t exist, yet one can prove this to themself quite simply- stop the belief in a god, and see if there remain any evidence that there is one, that actually exists, within this world in a capacity to actually have an effect in this world. Because we are in a physical world, if you have no physical presence here, than you do not exist, in the physical world, and are totally irrelevant here. If you are totally irrelevant here than you obviously must not be god, in any sense of the word.
Hawking makes the point here that ‘science makes god unnecessary’- now this is an interesting comment which ties into the point that since god is not here in the physical, then he is irrelevant, and, in fact, as Stephen points out, “The laws of physics can explain the universe without a need for a creator.”- this world is indeed a system which follows and moves according to specific laws of nature or physics. Indeed, existence and how it operates has been largely regulated to an automated system. Apparently god is lazy.
But, in fact, there are creators present in this world, whose do have a very real effect on the world and how it exists, and in fact are creating this world as ho it is in each and every single moment- but, we don’t call them gods, we call them people. And this brings us to the ultimate point or reason for the belief or following of a god, and that is- to avoid at all costs the realization of ourselves as the real gods of this existence, who are creating it in each and every moment. Indeed, ‘god’ is lazy.
So here is where Science falls short, in that it observes existence and the laws that govern it and calculates and quantifies these laws of physics, as if looking at existence as a giant pinball machine, yet- it fails to consider the players of the game, that the game, while it has a lot of seemingly independent moving parts, do not play itself.
Science still fails to answer those big questions like “Who are we?” and “Why are we here’? And perhaps that is why so many have filled the gap with religion, because they haven’t yet realized that they are the answer to those questions- that it is up to us to decide “Who we’ll be” and “What we’re going to do here”.
When Hawking was asked, “Why do so many human beings seem to need a god?”, he answered, “People want to think there is something they can relate to and which can make them feel they are not isolated but are part of the larger whole.”
We can see this is true for so many groups or clubs, they exist mainly so the members can have an excuse to come together and then feel that they have relevance in this world, that they have meaning, and that they are appreciated. And once again, here is a case of where the human tries to solve a problem by adding to it, instead of getting to the root cause of the problem in the first place. So the question to ask is- Why does the person feel isolated in the first place? Why do they feel they are not part of the larger whole? How is it that this has come to be in the first place?
How is it that despite the fact that we’re all here, together, we are so apparently separated and alone?
What is it that separates us?
It’s thoughts, beliefs, belief systems, opinions, judgments and our participation in these that keep us separated, and in fact they’re designed for that very reason- to encourage us to divide, because once divided, we can be conquered.
Because, in fact we are a part of the larger whole already, it’s not necessary to join any club to do so, we are part of the whole simply by virtue of being born on this planet- however- we’ve become so separated by our participation in the very things we hope to give us a sense of belonging.
We’ve learned to judge and separate from each other in fear- and this is largely due to the current money system we live in, where not all are equally supported, and thus some must make a living in any way they can- so we live in a constant fear and distrust of each other- because we live in a system in which we are literally pitted-against one another- How can we trust each other in such a situation? Of course we are not going to feel connected when we must be out for ourselves.
Thus, the solution to this loneliness- is not by further removing yourself from your world by believing in or devoting your life to that which doesn’t even exist in this reality- but rather to stop the separation within yourself, and to support a new monetary system, within which all will be supported- so that we can then actually be able to live here together without separating from each other in fear and judgment.
Finally, when Hawking was asked, “When will the human race meet it’s end? Are we destined to fail?”, Hawking replied, “Life in the universe will cease to be possible when the universe becomes cold, dark and empty in about 15 billion years. But the real danger is that the human race will destroy itself on a much shorter time-scale. To have the chance of long-term survival, we will have to spread out into space.”
True that the human race is quite busy destroying itself, but spreading out into space is no solution, as the problem is ourself, and thus no matter where we go we take the problem with us. The only real solution is to change ourselves to stop spiting each other, because we’re actually only spiting ourselves and creating a world that most people are unhappy with, and many are in poverty and starving to death and dying of treatable diseases. We will never be successful spreading out into space until we’ve effectively dealt with ourselves here. Running away from our problems is no solution.
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It’s quite a shock sometimes the extent to which people can be in denial of what’s really going on in this world, of the kinds of lives that people are living, lives that no one would ‘choose’ for themself, if they have the choice.
Some do have the choice- some have the money to buy a decent life. Many do not. What shocks me, is the extent to which some will utterly refuse to see this point of how many people literally do not have a choice to do anything about their situation- Obviously, this ignorance is deliberately used in order that they can justify not doing anything about the situation- they think, whether on a conscious level or subconscious, that if they can just pretend that they are in no way responsible, then they won’t have to do anything, nothing will have to change, and their reality can stay exactly as it is- You see, what this shows is that they are, In Fact, aware of the actual situation, by the very act of them trying to protect their reality- they EXPOSE that they DO KNOW what is going on, because they FEAR IT HAPPENING TO THEM! In their Fear, they try to Manipulate so they don’t have to face an existence anything like those that’s on the “Less” side of the Polarity, they Manipulate so that they can maintain their own Private Heaven, in Separation from everyone else. It is this very point of our current Accepted Nature, which Causes and Supports the Abuse in this World.
It is this very Mindset- this pattern of Fear and Manipulation for Self-Interest in Spite of the Whole, which is causing the Suffering n this World- Suffering which, In Fact, doesn’t need to exist. Thus, what you essentially have here, is people literally Hiding from their Own Shadow- they are Fearing that which they Create and Creating that which they Fear- an Infinite Never-Ending Cycle to No-Where.
Thus Stop being Enslaved in the Limitation of Fears, which you are the Cause of Anyway. Have some GUTS- Investigate Real Solutions for the Problems in this World- Be a Real Human Being Here, not just a Robot Enslaved to Fear clutching Desperately to your little Heaven, which you Will Inevitably Lose. Get Busy making a Heaven that will Stand the Test of Time- then you will Never have to Fear Again. It’s So Simple- Have you GOT IT Yet??